"all those picassos and stuff" -on art and animal cruelty
I was going to write a real thing about this but I am too lazy and it is too late so I am just going to paste the (splendid) instant messenger conversation I just with Alex Fitzgerald about the matter. I did edit it for easier reading.
Before you start I want to say: I have my own very firm opinions about what should and shouldn't be done with animals. I'm not going to get into it too much, but if you want to discuss it with me you are welcome. I just want to clarify that I do like dogs. I am just not delusional about them. I also think that hippie americans should leave people who have a tradition of whaling (=iceland (japan, etc.)) ALONE. just wanted to throw that in there. ok here's what i'm talking about:
Before you start I want to say: I have my own very firm opinions about what should and shouldn't be done with animals. I'm not going to get into it too much, but if you want to discuss it with me you are welcome. I just want to clarify that I do like dogs. I am just not delusional about them. I also think that hippie americans should leave people who have a tradition of whaling (=iceland (japan, etc.)) ALONE. just wanted to throw that in there. ok here's what i'm talking about:
alxfitzgerald
At the costa rican bienarte, this one artist tied a dog he had found on the street to a wall, and wrote "you are what you read"
in dog biscuits on the other side of the gallery
and then he took pictures of all the people standing there at the opening not doing anything about the dog
and then he let the dog go, but he led the people to believe that it had died
and everyone on the internet has gotten incredibly worked up about it
because people like to pretend they care about things on the internet
Júlía
oh blah
alxfitzgerald
but anyway, I joined the facebook group today, after a 5th invitation
and I stated my opinion in how it was a successful piece, and that too many of the people in this group had gone as far as threatening to kill the artist without doing the proper research to find out that the dog lived, and that while people are investing all their efforts into this one not dead dog, there are thousands of dying dogs no one is thinking about right now. And I also talked about the fact that the petition for this one dog has over 2 million signatures while the petitions against the mass slaughter of tens of thousands of strays in romania didn't even get 20,000
and now I am getting facebook hate mail
Júlía
people can be so hysterical
alxfitzgerald
and seriously, if I read "HE COULD HAVE PAINTED IT OR MADE A SCULPTURE"
one more time
I think I might cry
for all of humanity
Júlía
I want to join the group just so I can tell them they are dumb
and that they probably EAT MISTREATED ANIMALS EVERY DAY
alxfitzgerald
BUT THOSE ARE NOT DOGS JULIA
OTHER ANIMALS DON'T COUNT
Júlía
and what about the dude at the tate modern with the goldfish in the blender
and everyone else who starves themselves or others or pretends to do so as performance art
are they gonna make petitions about that too
alxfitzgerald
I want to start a group about that
WHAT ABOUT HERMAN NITSCH
I should post that in there
Júlía
i wanna write them all sorts of things
"your mom is “art”"
"your mom is an “artist”"
“dogs suck and they need to die”
alxfitzgerald
"i feel really bad if the owner had lost the dog and then this guy took it and did that to him. i mean, the dog has to come from somewhere......" -group member
Júlía
they are so stupid.
there are probably more stray dogs than people over there. like in so many other places. they just hang out in the street and suffer and starve.
alxfitzgerald
I KNOW
also, I love the ones who are like “I JUST WANT TO GO OVER TO THE GALLERY AND CUT THE ROPE AND SAVE IT”
this happened in 2007.
it lasted for a day.
" Abey Interante (Mylton High School) wrote: you know i think that the mona lisa and all those picassos and stuff are pretty good art and nothing died in the process of making those, why does a dog have to die for this! this is sad!!!!!!"
Júlía
i am going to start referring to good art only as "all those picassos and stuff"
alxfitzgerald
I want to go to MoMA
and just say "he's not bob ross" and "these definitely aren't as good as all those picassos and stuff"
Labels: alex fitzgerald, animals, art, dialogue, weird americans
8 Comments:
bjánafólk.
en ég meina, það gefur augaleið að hundur er krúttlegri en kjúklingur! og því meira krútt = næmari tilfinningar = auknar þjáningar!
kannski Lúkas hafi þá verið listgjörningur eftir allt saman?
HAHAHA með lúkas
og haha á fólkið á facebook sem HATAR LIST.
og elskar kjöt.
"he's not bob ross" hahahahaha
Ég þoooooli ekki umræðuþræði... eina fólkið sem tileinkar sér þá og notar til *að koma skoðunum sínum á framfæri* eru a. heimsk. b. lesblind. c. bæði.
Ég er til dæmis í einum áfanga þar sem umræður um bókmenntaverk eiga fara fram á umræðuþræði í stað þess að hafa umræðutíma þar sem fólk hittist, horfist í augu og á skoðanaskipti um verkin sem þau eru að lesa.
Einhvern veginn leiðast umræðurnar alltaf út í að yfirlýsingaglatt fólk fer að lýsa hinu og þessu misgáfulegu yfir um höfundinn ... Virgill var pottþétt hommi ... Hómer hataði konur ... Rousseau borðaði sokka... svo fara hinir að svara því og allir gleyma að tala um verkin... semsagt gleyma að tjá sig um það sem skiptir máli í hinum skáldlega heimi!
Það versta er að ef ég tjái mig ekki - þ.e. tek ekki þátt í umræðum um hvort að Virgill hafi verið hommi eða ekki er ég dregin niður um einn heilan!
En já umræðuþræðir og heimskt fólk er prump.
Þetta sama fólk hefur örugglega oft stigið á pöddur. En þær eru bara svo "ógeðslegar" að þær mega alveg deyja!
"All those Picassos and stuff" væri frábær titill á bíómynd eða lagi.
The kids in that group don't know the truth b/c they didnt even bother to research it at all. I don't really care about this piece either way, I would hope that the artist found the dog a home after using it, but like the FB kids, im too lazy to google it. I will tell you that these kids should be getting upset about the fact that 6-8 million Dogs and cats wind up in U.S. animal shelters each year (and way more just live on the streets). And because nobody adopts them, half of those animals are euthanized. These kids probably have bitchy little purebred breeder dogs, aand are completely ignorant to the fact that they have contributed to keeping dogs like the one used in Habacuc's piece on the street.
as you can see i'm kind of a freak about pet overpopulation.
excuse me but you did not get my permission to put my full name and what school i go to on this. i am very angry and only 14. this is very dangerous! I googled myself just to check if there was anything bad going on or if my name was flying around.
And another thing! Replying to Charlie, my pets are from animal shelters!
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